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TWU attorney: SEPTA pension fund ‘at risk’

SEPTA's pension fund, which has become a key issue in the three-day-old transit strike, contained about $640 million at the end of September, down from $719 million in June, 2008.

The fund, affected by rising and falling stock markets, has rebounded from its level in March, when it was down to $471 million. But it remains well short of being "fully funded" - able to meet all potential payments to current and future retirees.

SEPTA general manager Joseph Casey said today the fund is in no danger of missing any payments to retired workers or future retirees.

Casey said the fund will require increased contributions from SEPTA to remain actuarially sound.

Transport Workers Union Local 234 president Willie Brown said Wednesday his workers would "stay out as long as it takes to secure our pension." He accused SEPTA of mismanaging the pension fund and of underfunding the workers' fund compared to the pension fund for SEPTA managers.

In negotiations, the TWU has been seeking greater contributions from SEPTA to the pension fund, and greater pension payouts to workers who retire. SEPTA has been seeking increased contributions from the workers to the pension fund, rising from the current 2 percent of base pay to 3.5 percent by the end of the proposed five-year contract.

SEPTA today released a summary of its pension financial data, which showed the pension fund for TWU workers was funded at 53 percent of full liability, as of June 1. The pension fund for SEPTA managers was funded at 65 percent.

The data showed the pension fund has never been fully funded. In 1995, the TWU fund was funded at 53 percent and the managers' fund at 88 percent. In 2000, the TWU pension fund was funded at 69 percent and the managers' fund at 87 percent. In 2005, the year of the last TWU strike, the workers' fund was funded at 61 percent and the managers at 72 percent.

Casey said the fund would eventually reach fully funded status if there were no changes in benefits payments and if the fund met its investment goal of 8 percent a year.

From 1991 through June, the fund's investment return was 6.42 percent a year. That was a decline from a year earlier: From 1991 through June 2008, the fund had earned 8.36 percent a year.

"Have we ever missed a pension payment? No," Casey said. "Is there any risk we will miss a pension payment? No."

But Bruce Bodner, attorney for the TWU, said the numbers "demonstrate exactly the point that the union has been making - they show the disparity between the support by SEPTA for the union fund and the managers' fund."

"The plan is at risk, and it has been at risk for a long time," Bodner said.

And Bodner said SEPTA's request for higher contributions from TWU members was an effort to make up for previous losses.

Casey said the TWU had offered to make increased contributions to help fund increased benefits.

"This is their pension plan. They offered this," Casey said. "I don't know what their issue is."

Bodner said the union's offer of increased contributions had been contingent on greater wage increases than SEPTA was willing to accept. Without bigger wage increases, the union was not willing to make greater pension contributions, he said.

"Every part of the contract impacts every other part," Bodner said.


Contact staff writer Paul Nussbaum at 215-854-4587 or pnussbaum@phillynews.com

Comments   
Posted 07:01 PM, 11/05/2009
zjimmyjcb
Can we say that Bruce Bodner does NOT know what he is talking about?
Posted 07:20 PM, 11/05/2009
Luther Sloan
I didn't know anyone still had a pension in the USA anymore. You know, 401K and IRAs are more stable and you don't have to worry about mismanagement. Perhaps Willie and the union will move in to the 1990s and embrace a modern way of investing for retirement.
Posted 07:30 PM, 11/05/2009
philadcny bob
Why do they even get a pension? Nobody else does.
Posted 07:44 PM, 11/05/2009
Loucamp
The only people still with a pension, SEPTA & the politicians.
Posted 07:52 PM, 11/05/2009
DC
Who the hell cares?
Posted 08:02 PM, 11/05/2009
Cobbler Nation
Bodner is a commie and proud of it. He's making a power play via his handy "useful idiot" - Willie Brown.
Posted 08:06 PM, 11/05/2009
luvnjshore
We should care. The money has to come from somewhere. The more they get, the more we lose. The cost for all this will be reflected in the cost of riding septa.
Posted 08:11 PM, 11/05/2009
themarshall
zjimmyjcb, Bruce Bodner came to phila. from new york where he was a painter, a painter somehow now he is a big time lawyer.??? NOT! It gets worse but you dont want to hear it.
Posted 08:23 PM, 11/05/2009
Murphy1120
they should fire evry one of them
Posted 08:36 PM, 11/05/2009
zjimmyjcb
Can we also say Willie Brown is way over his head? But what does he care? He actually thinks money grows on trees.
Posted 09:00 PM, 11/05/2009
jimjonestown
This is alot of math to do for Willie Brown. I call the unions BS on this. Look at all other major national pension plans. They all have taken a hit recently. As for the pension payouts to increase, good luck. Does Willie Brown even know how the payout works? Just asking.
Posted 09:09 PM, 11/05/2009
Taxpaying Voter
The taxpayers are tired of having to pay more and more into these pensions for workers to continue to get paid sometimes for decades after they stop working. 401k or IRA plans need to be implemented and the workers need to take responsibility for their own financial future. Break the union and employ people that are willing to work. All this nonsense about protecting workers, PA is an 'at will' state so if the workers want to be protected, talk to your lawmakers and have them change the laws.
Posted 10:22 PM, 11/05/2009
mikeyg
Bodner is an idiot - and he has Slick Willie allowing him to be his mouthpiece. The perfect storm - ignorance and greed.
Posted 10:44 PM, 11/05/2009
phillypapers
I don't think it is greedy for these people to want to have money when they retire, particularly if they've paid into it their entire working careers. It is odd to me that some people think that is not right.
Posted 11:08 PM, 11/05/2009
micki360
It's not right when you don't want to contribute to your own retirement fund. Why should we? Where do you think that money is going to come from to bring the pension funds up? Us!!!! Our fares will rise. You want a retirement fund great, you have one. But why should I contribute?
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