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On the second day of the strike against SEPTA, TWU Local 234 president Willie Brown (right) tells a news conference that the key issue is pensions in the continuing labor action.
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Negotiations: So near, yet so far

TODAY, GOV. RENDELL hopes that tempers will cool after a day of flying insults, before he tries to bring SEPTA and the striking Transport Workers Union Local 234 back to the bargaining table.

About 5 p.m. yesterday in a conference call, Rendell spoke with SEPTA's negotiators in a wide-ranging discussion of bargaining issues, including pensions, said SEPTA spokesman Richard Maloney.

Rendell is expected to meet face-to-face with TWU negotiators late this afternoon, according to a TWU spokesman. The meeting location is undetermined.

Insiders believe that the earliest the two sides could return to the bargaining table would be tomorrow, possibly with Rendell again shuttling between them.

After talks broke down about 12:15 a.m. Tuesday, Rendell, a major player in the weekend talks, sharply criticized the union for failing to take what he considered a "sensational" contract in the recession. He called it "ludicrous" for the TWU to strike.

Both Rendell and Mayor Nutter took to the airwaves chastising the TWU for turning down a first-year signing bonus of $1,250, a 2.5 percent wage increase in year 2, and 3 percent increases for each of the remaining years of the five-year contract offer.

Local 234 President Willie Brown does not want Nutter at further meetings, calling him "Little Caesar" at a news conference yesterday.

"The only way this is going to get resolved is at the bargaining table," said Nutter. "If it's helpful for me to be there, I'll be there."

Brown said that "Little Caesar, as I'd like to call [Nutter], stood in front of everybody and told the riding public that a strike was off the table.

"What he did was hog the microphone. You never heard me or Governor Rendell saying that a strike was off the table. We said we were negotiating to try to get a contract."

Brown said that Nutter was trying to keep a lid on TWU members' salaries, because he believes that the SEPTA contract would be a template for negotiations with city workers.

"Their negotiations are their negotiations. Our negotiations are our negotiations," Nutter responded at a news conference.

Yesterday, both sides held news conferences to discuss pension issues.

SEPTA General Manager Joe Casey said that TWU wanted to enhance benefits for retirees. As an example, Casey cited a worker with 30 years' experience, who currently receives a benefit based on 54 percent of his base annual wage, not including overtime.

Under the TWU proposal, the same worker would receive 60 percent.

Although the increase shows a spread of 6 percentage points between the two proposals, Casey told reporters, the actual difference is an 11 percent increase over the current benefit.

Reacting to allegations that SEPTA has underfunded TWU's pension, Casey said: "We make payments every year [based on actuarial findings] to keep funding at the appropriate level."

TWU issued its own summary of the pension plan, showing that the funding level declined from 62 percent in 2007 to 52 percent today.

The union said that the decline was due to SEPTA management's underfunding of the plan and, in part, the stock market collapse.

TWU charged that SEPTA is "demanding" pension contribution of 3.5 percent from TWU members.

Casey said that the contribution was 3 percent in year three and 3.5 percent in year four of the five-year contract.

TWU said that "the additional employee contribution, in part, is designed to pay for SEPTA's historic failure to adequately fund the pension plan."

Rendell didn't see it that way. "Most people are losing their pensions," said Rendell. "Here, pensions are being increased by 11 percent. So this was an excellent contract."

Staff writers Julie Shaw and Catherine Lucey contributed to this report.

 

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Posted 05:38 AM, 11/05/2009
phillychuck
SEPTA needs to tell TWU that it is going to shift to a defined contribution rather than a defined benefit plan like the rest of the world. The TWU salaries (for folks with only a high school education) are more than entry level salaries for BS engineering and science grads. It is outrageous that an unskilled driver earns more than someone entering a profession.
Posted 06:38 AM, 11/05/2009
tjinphilly
I'd say that Willie Brown stuck his neck, but he doesn't have one.
Posted 07:20 AM, 11/05/2009
run2jazz2
I used to live in Philly, and I thought that SEPTA going on strike was crazy since so many people need their service to get work daily. My brother who still lives in West Philly told me he thinks these folks deserve the money for all of nonsense they have to put up with from the public. I agree with one of the postings that these folks are only driving a bus, trolley or train and therefore do not deserve the money they are asking for. It seems like every few years SEPTA holds the region hostage by going on strike and yet the on-time service does not get any better. So the union needs to begin to ask themselves that despite getting more money will the city get better service. The answer has always been no! For me, although SEPTA finished to EL stations in West Philly look how long it took them to do it? SEPTA needs to really get its priorities straight and start providing better service.
Posted 08:09 AM, 11/05/2009
concerns25
We can wait them out, if pension and the repairs are the only problem, then let them stay on strike. Willie Brown should be voted out of office in 10 months, he is a horrible negotiator. If the companies that make repairs don't do a great job, that is wonderful, the sleeping night mechanics can wake up and do their jobs.
Posted 08:17 AM, 11/05/2009
concerns25
Move the pensions to 401ks and let them decide how to invest just like the rest of us, some of us lost no money or very little because we did not rely on someone else doing our investing. This should be the last offer before a State takeover and firing of all current employees. If a strike goes on for 30 or more days that is enough time to put a new plan in place and hire all new people, preferrably no unions.
Posted 08:44 AM, 11/05/2009
kelprod1
Here is the negotiation democratic leaders should take with these slimballs..."if you go back to work, you can keep your job. If not, your are terminated this afternoon. Any questions? Thanks for coming to the bargaining table." Oh that's right, the democratic party is in bed with these slimeballs and therefore do not have the stones to do what is right by the general public. It is all about their politically self serving hides...
Posted 08:50 AM, 11/05/2009
johnny o
Mayor Mike is the only elected official with any sand, any integrity. He's fighting for us all, the taxpayers. This is not a personal thing against a very, very greedy union. EVERYONE has to give a little to get this ship back above water, and back on course.
Posted 09:31 AM, 11/05/2009
concerns25
Hope Mike does the same with the city unions, take it or go home look for a job. Strike in this economy means accept the deal or be fired and replaced.
Posted 09:37 AM, 11/05/2009
concerns25
How childish Little Napoleon doesn't play with Little Ceasar
Posted 09:56 AM, 11/05/2009
phillyfansrdumb
johnnyo and concerns25 what have you 2 been smoking? didn't you hear that your beloved mayor wants city dep'ts to look to cut another 7.5% from their budgets. which means they'll be looking at reducing police and fire and library hrs. again. didn't chicken little aka "lil caesar" (LOL) say the sky was falling already during the state budget crisis and that why he needed to tax philadelphians more to avoid that?
Posted 10:11 AM, 11/05/2009
concerns25
I am no fan and did not vote for Nutter but in the case of union greed, I agree. You said it, everyone is cutting departments and yet the union is gouging the taxpayers. They are at will employees at this point, no contract, they are like everyone else. The State can takeover Septa or Septa can declare bankruptcy and restructure. Why do you need a union in this day and age, OSHA is for work rules and EEOC is for wage/discrimination disputes, you are paying union dues for what. As long as they are paid with State and Federal funds, they can be let go.
Posted 11:54 AM, 11/05/2009
sangoboi
It makes sense that everyone would be upset with the union folks as they are the one who people think they can do something about...ala "crab in the barrel". Well I happen to think that SEPTA management is horrible and wasteful with our tax payer dollars (think Market Frankford El reconstruction. I'm sorry most people would rather forget the hell that SEPTA management has put riders in West Philadelphia thru over that project as well as the commercial corridor in that area. Better yet think about the wasted dollars spent on rebuilding the "old" trolley cars that travel on Girard Avenue. While we may all think the union should (and they should) take some concession since we are all having too, lets not take our attention away from SEPTA management and their waste. The governor and the mayor should be looking at both sides of the issue and as an outsider it appears they have one message and one target...that leaves me wondering "what's really going on".
Posted 12:41 PM, 11/05/2009
Naturallady822
Awww - I'm sooo glad that I moved out of that forsaken city... The roads are very narrow, and God help you if you are behind a bus. The drivers NEVER pull over to load or unload passengers - don't you guys know the difference between the curb and the middle of the street? No kind of courtesy at all for driver. Everyone needs to have a car - BOYCOTT SEPTA. The public should call the shoots for a change.
Posted 12:59 PM, 11/05/2009
TJK
This is all politics on the part of Willie Brown. None of his members showed up at his meeting. I say get rid of them all. We just had our pension frozen and there will be no more contributions to the pension any more. This is was most companies do these days. Fire them all.
Posted 02:18 PM, 11/05/2009
CleanupPhilly
Let Rendell know how you feel. Tell him to let Septa go to at-will employment status, and start hiring people who can do the job, and firing those who won't: http://www.governor.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/contact/2998
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