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SEPTA strikes, then and now

The last time SEPTA workers took to the picket lines was 2005. Here's a comparison of the key points:

OBSTACLES

2005: The battle between SEPTA and Transport Workers Union Local 234 centered on health-care costs. Union employees had never before contributed to their health care, and SEPTA was pushing them to chip in 5 percent toward their premiums. The two sides eventually settled on a 1 percent contribution, excluding income from overtime.

2009: Though SEPTA did begin these negotiations asking workers for increased health-care contributions, it has since dropped that request. Now the main sticking point is the union's underfunded pension. The TWU says that the two sides are only $4 million apart. There is also disagreement on work rules in the maintenance department involving workers' rights to pick jobs. On wages, SEPTA has offered a five-year contract with no raise in the first year, 2.5 percent in the second year and 3 percent raises for the remaining three years, along with a first-year $1,250 signing bonus.

SEPTA'S FINANCES

2005: The authority faced a $92 million hole in its 2006 budget, and needed a state bailout to break even.

2009: SEPTA now has its first source of dedicated state funding, though that money may be in jeopardy if the state doesn't succeed in its attempt to charge tolls on Interstate 80. And though ridership and revenues are down due to high unemployment, SEPTA hopes that those numbers will level off in the coming months.

THE PLAYERS

2005: Elected officials, especially U.S. Rep. Bob Brady, were instrumental in getting both sides to compromise.

2009: Brady - along with Mayor Nutter and Gov. Rendell - has been heavily involved again this time. It is hoped that they can make things happen more quickly. In 2005, the strike lasted seven days.

- By staff writer Kitty Caparella

and Anthony Campisi of

www.ourmoneyphilly.com.

Comments   
Posted 06:23 AM, 11/04/2009
blackknight
Welcome to the real world Septa employees. Stop whining and get back to work. Many people in today's economy pay for benefits and have had matching 401K contributions removed. Unlike your jobs, people don't rely on the majority of the people for their livelihood. I wish there was a way to issue a deadline date that if you didn't return to work you would be fired and replaced.
Posted 07:25 AM, 11/04/2009
ibjimp
10 years ago I went to SEPTA because of the Healthcare and Pension. I took a $10.00 per hour wage cut from what I was making for my family. Now I'm making what I had been making and SEPTA is trying to change that again. I was promised alot of thing at the time I was hired and alot has been taken away. Just because you might make less or pay more for healthcare you think I should. How about I go to your boss and tell him you make to much and to increase your contributions. People always think if they don't have something no one else should. Come on be thankful for what you have and don't worry about other folks. Someones always going to have or get something you don;t.
Posted 07:27 AM, 11/04/2009
AIR MGTJR
Blacknight needs to understand the real world. true some people pay benefits and have had 401k contributions removed but is this the direction you want the country to move ? you act as if it perfectly ok? the people you speak of make more money and have better conditions then SEPTA workers so lets let the conditions and the money improve before we start macthing job for job.
Posted 07:51 AM, 11/04/2009
JSLondon85
Yeah, Air, Septa workers make as much if not more than me. They were also offered a 12% pay increase over 4 years and turned it down. I know people who have worked for $32,000 for the past three years and have barely seen a 3% increase in pay over those three years. The entire country is in a recession, they should just be happy that they even HAVE jobs. I can think of a couple thousand recently graduated college students who would LOVE to have those jobs.
Posted 08:00 AM, 11/04/2009
phlyfumblr
EVERYONE got cuts in their raises. EVERYONE is contriubting more to their health insurance. EVERYONE took a hit on their employer contributions (or lost them all together). It's a RECESSION... deal with it.
Posted 08:30 AM, 11/04/2009
AsValidAsYours
In the real world things are ugly. In the last year my companies wages were slashed 10% across the board, and our payment for healthcare increased 60%. Filed under "lucky" to have a job. Mayor Nutter, give them a week, then go Ronald Reagan on them, get rid of them all and replace them, with people who are willing to work, and not bankrupt the city any further.
Posted 08:38 AM, 11/04/2009
iamsue
Everyone should be sending their comments to Rendell and your local rep in Philly. Look them up on google. This is the best way to stop this union from getting these ridiculous raises, benefits and sign-on bonuses. Tell the politicians not to give an inch.
Posted 08:57 AM, 11/04/2009
concerns25
Bring a class action lawsuit by the people against the Union and Septa. There must be an ACLU lawyer who will protect my rights to public transportation, my rights are being violated, they are using taxpayer dollars, I have a right to public transportation provided by these dollars.
Posted 09:00 AM, 11/04/2009
YoYo
ibjimp, we are allowed to worry about what other folks have when we are paying for it through our taxes even though I have not been on a bus in over 10 years.
Posted 09:25 AM, 11/04/2009
everydayguy
I have a graduate degree and I don't even make what an average TWU member earns to drive a bus. I'm not getting any raise next year. And my employer will likely raise my health insurance premiums next year. These union guys are whining idiots. Commuters should gang up on them.
Posted 10:15 AM, 11/04/2009
penncrow19
No one is jealous at what Septa workers are able to make. If Septa workers go on strike to gain more pay, benefits or whatever, thats fine too. But you have to realize you are doing it at everyone else's expense, thats why the public is outraged. You want real world? In real world, there wouldn't be an union to hide behind. In real world, private transportation companies like megabus or coach buses in Chinatown can goto NY and DC for $1-$10. While I have to pay $5 just go travel roundtrip with septa in the city. Imagine in a real competitive world, what privatized transportation could do for the public. Stop asking for what you think you "deserve". You (sorry for the generalization) were not top 1% of your school, you did not get a college education, you did not got through rigorous professional training, hence you don't "deserve" jack. So if you feel like you are under compensated, educate yourself or learn a new skill. Or you can hide behind the union and go on strike, but don't be upset when you can't get what you are striking for.
Posted 10:52 AM, 11/04/2009
BFlint
One final offer to the union: half of what the original increase was and no opportunity to strike in the future. If no agreement is reached by Friday then sell off the busses and open the bus service to privitization.
Posted 10:59 AM, 11/04/2009
LEEinc
BOYCOTT SEPTA!!!!! They strike to show you what they think of the little people.
Posted 11:02 AM, 11/04/2009
LEEinc
Fire Septa from their bus lines. Allow them to only run the rails. Get a new company to run all the bus lines. Offer Septa a smaller package and tell them it was their own doing.
Posted 11:55 AM, 11/04/2009
G.E. Bonat
I amazed that the transit union turned down such a fantastic offer. So many people in this city would jump at the wages & perks these folks were offered. I personally beleive this thug mentality union is on a political power trip. I really think Septa shoul be taken over by the state (PTA) & it's emplyees should be forbidden to strike. They obviously have no regard for the working masses who rely on their service. Lets face it , most of thses over paid transit workers would be challanged to flip burgers (which is probably what they would be doing if not driving busses & trains). They should all be terminated, perhaps then they would realize how good they have it now.
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