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Pedro Martinez 10/29/09
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Sam Donnellon: Phillies probably left Pedro in too long

NEW YORK - Ninety-nine pitches. That was the pitch count when Pedro Martinez walked off the mound in the bottom of the sixth inning last night.

Ninety-nine pitches. Two runs allowed, the second a tiebreaking solo home run by Hideki Matsui with two outs in that inning. Charlie Manuel met Martinez in the dugout, pushed his face into his pitcher's face, asked the question that Martinez has been asked so often in his brilliant and star-crossed career.

"I'm all right," Martinez assured his manager.

You wonder what Grady Little was thinking in his North Carolina home, if he was even watching. A similar conversation, in the eighth inning of the 2003 ALCS with the Yankees, cost him his job as Boston's manager. Then, Martinez talked his way into staying with a 5-3 lead in a Game 7. The Yankees tied that game, won it in extra innings on Aaron Boone's walkoff home run. This time, Martinez talked his way in with a simple statement, and all you could do is wonder how - and why?

In Game 2 of the National League Championship Series, Manuel did not ask. Eighty-seven pitches, a long fly ball to end the seventh inning.

Then, seven shutout innings did not earn him the chance at eight. "He was done," the manager said after the Phillies lost that game by a run, almost chuckling at the suggestion he be left out any longer.

Ninety-nine pitches last night. So why ask him this time? With J.A. Happ and Chad Durbin warmed up, with his entire bullpen sitting on a week's worth of rest, why, why, why?

"He said he felt good," Manuel said. "He said he was fine . . . The bottom of the lineup was up and everything, and I thought he hadn't lost anything."

He did?

"He asked me how I felt," Martinez said. "I never felt as strong as I would have liked because I was under the weather the last few days. That's not an excuse . . . I felt good enough to pitch."

Here's what the episode seemed to suggest: that Manuel, despite its postseason resurgence, really doesn't trust his bullpen. When he finally called on Chan Ho Park, after Martinez had surrendered consecutive singles to put runners at the corners with no one out, Park escaped with one run allowed and an inning-ending doubleplay.

Ryan Madson pitched a scoreless eighth.

The Yankees had the most potent offense in baseball this season, hit more home runs than everyone. Martinez did what any optimistic fan could have asked, pitched six-plus gritty innings, pitched his team into a chance to win on the road against the Grade-A A.J. Burnett. One curveball, and not a particularly bad one, had broken a 1-1 tie in the sixth, but the truth is that several Yankees had driven balls deep in the two innings before that. With his array of junk and judicious use of an 89-mph fastball, Martinez was fooling them - yes, striking out eight over those six innings. But he was also, um, using the whole field to get his other outs.

"We can't really choose our destiny," he said on the eve of last night's 3-1 series-tying loss to the Yankees in Game 2 of the World Series, but the truth is, he has made a bad habit of doing just that.

When Little left him in during that 2003 game? The next batter, Hideki Matsui, hit a ground-rule double. When fans first chanted "Who's Your Daddy" at him in 2004? Matsui went yard in that game.

The other day Martinez dubbed himself "at times, the most influential player that ever stepped in Yankee Stadium." That, too, is not true, but this might be: He is the most diversely interpreted player ever to walk onto either version, old or brand-new.

He once said, "I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the [butt], pardon me the word."

A few years later, after a series of frustrating losses to New York, he issued his infamous "The Yankees are my Daddy" surrender.

Fans here tried a "Who's Your Daddy" in the first inning last night. It died after a few uninspired seconds. They tried it again a minute later and again it died. After 32 career starts against this team, Pedro had done the unthinkable. He wore Yankees fans out, made jeering the Phillies' 38-year-old righthander seem old and tired - older and more tired than their longtime nemesis seemed last night.

Martinez has now had two chances to make his name synonymous with this postseason. He might have left too early in one, and stayed a bit too long in the other. The first time, destiny was chosen for him.

Last night, he picked his poison. And Manuel poured it.

He's a first-ballot Hall of Famer, and he has had some incredible moments along his long ride. But the overriding impression is of nights like the one last night - nights of a little too much, or not quite enough. *

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Comments   
Posted 03:46 AM, 10/30/2009
djmarco
Charlie always leaves his starters in 2 long; for sure I wanted him out of there after the leadoff single, but did it matter tonight ? The lack of offense was the real reason why we lost.
Posted 05:53 AM, 10/30/2009
Kevin Moore
I agree djmarco... The offense needed to step up.
Posted 06:10 AM, 10/30/2009
psychockey
Pedro made a mistake to Matsui- that was the only pitch he could hit out. nothing outside would have went out. btw why didn't Charlie have Rollins and Victorino running in the 8th. if Rollins stole with Victorino up that would have generated a run. We all know Mariano has no move.
Posted 06:54 AM, 10/30/2009
JBP
Brutally negative reporting, pitch to Matzui was good potch and had nothing to do with tiredness, Charlie does trust his pen.
Posted 07:07 AM, 10/30/2009
revjim
Please will someone agree with me and tell writers to shove that pitch count stuff you know where. Always second guessing. Always an excuse.
Posted 07:12 AM, 10/30/2009
richrecruiter
They scored 1 run. Leaving Pedro in the game had nothing to do with the loss.
Posted 07:15 AM, 10/30/2009
monsieurms
Oh, c'mon. In La he was pulled too soon. Now, he's in too long. He looked good. Said he was fine. It was reasonable to send him back out and the hits may have zip to do with getting tired--the Yankees can hit people who are fresh. Reality--game wasn't lost because of Martinez. If you hold the Yanks to 3, on the road no less, you've given your team a chance to win. Ask the offense why nothing happened.
Posted 07:21 AM, 10/30/2009
lourodrigis
Pedro pitched well enough to to win the game. The lack of offense, lead by Ryan Howard's 4 strikeouts, was the reason we lost. They had Rivera on the ropes and Utley hits into a double play. Yes, he was safe but he has to do better than that in that situation.
Posted 07:26 AM, 10/30/2009
hardball
pedro did a great job ,,cannot blame him for the loss,,blame the hitters for not producing runs ,,rollins and vic shud pulled off a double steal in the 8th and lessen the double play chances ,,,one run would had scored...
Posted 07:35 AM, 10/30/2009
gordy
I agree hardball. Even though the ump blew the tie at first (he blew the short hop for them) I still don't understand why you don't have your two fast runners going on that pitch. Pedro did do great, the bats let us down
Posted 07:37 AM, 10/30/2009
jacugi
Right on the money about the lack of offense losing that game. Pedro had good stuff all night - just didn't get the run support he needed. Let's just hope the bats come back alive in the upcoming games.
Posted 07:40 AM, 10/30/2009
1adam12
Sam, you are an idiot.
Posted 07:47 AM, 10/30/2009
SeanB
If you had told me that Pedro would only allow 3, I'd have told you that that would have been enough. Give credit to Burnett for pitching a gem. The only counter to the Phillies patience at the plate is to throw first pitch strikes, and that's what he did. We've seen this pattern over and over. Win the opener on the road and drop the 2nd game. Let's hope that Hamels keeps it going at home.
Posted 07:48 AM, 10/30/2009
dlscholt
Agree with the other posters here....leaving Pedro in did not cost us this game. The Yankees only scored three runs. Our offense should be able to put up more than that. Pedro pitched well enough to win.
Posted 07:58 AM, 10/30/2009
JrueTheDamaja
I hear sports reporters write two articles at the same time during the game, anticipating different outcomes. I'm sure this piece's alternate version complained about how Charlie went to the pen too early.
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